Hey there!
So, you are using Activiti in production? I am currently evaluating Activiti but I see several difficulties (imho created by the lack of a complete documentation
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How did you create the processes? I am trying to create a simple task that sends out an e-mail but there doesn't seem to be a checkbox in activiti-modeler which states "send email to" or something like that. Do you have to "program" a task using those obscure attributes?
In my opinion someone must be able to create and deploy a process by using activiti-modeler, but after creating a new process I do not find the corresponding buttons and menus. Thinking of our secretary creating new processes without knowing how to "program" really gives me the creeps. But there must be a way for doing this otherwiese the modeler would be useless imho.
Maybe you or someone else could help me? :geek:
Best
Markus
So, you are using Activiti in production? I am currently evaluating Activiti but I see several difficulties (imho created by the lack of a complete documentation
😞How did you create the processes? I am trying to create a simple task that sends out an e-mail but there doesn't seem to be a checkbox in activiti-modeler which states "send email to" or something like that. Do you have to "program" a task using those obscure attributes?
In my opinion someone must be able to create and deploy a process by using activiti-modeler, but after creating a new process I do not find the corresponding buttons and menus. Thinking of our secretary creating new processes without knowing how to "program" really gives me the creeps. But there must be a way for doing this otherwiese the modeler would be useless imho.Maybe you or someone else could help me? :geek:
Best
Markus
Thanks for your answer. But do you really think the currently available documentation is enough for new users interested in activiti? I really doubt that. There must be an easy way to create a process from scratch using the modeler and the corresponding tools or importing an existing bpmn file.
Any chance you could provide me with a sample process running on your system including email tasks and time restrictions? (Of course without real data) I really would appreciate that.
Best
Markus
There must be an easy way to create a process from scratch using the modeler and the corresponding tools or importing an existing bpmn file.Any chance you could provide me with a sample process running on your system including email tasks and time restrictions? (Of course without real data
) I really would appreciate that.Best
Markus
Thanks for your answer. But do you really think the currently available documentation is enough for new users interested in activiti? I really doubt that.
Hi Markus,
actually, Activiti does not aim at the "zero-coding-approach" that is rather popular in the BPM-market nowadays. The reason behind this is, that experience has proven that complex process applications cannot be created successfully with zero-coding, you always have to code manually. If you look for a way your secretary can create a process application, you should look for one of those tiny little workflow-applications that do exist, but are only suitable for projects like "holiday application process", not enterprise scenarios.
We (camunda) have a rather big amount of bpm project experience, with different BPM-products such as IBM etc. And I can assure you that using the Activiti Modeler is really useful for understanding the business requirements, especially if you link the process models with other requirements management tools such as Jira, which you can do using Activiti Cycle. You can also create a Maven project out of your process model using Cycle, and several other useful things.
But for getting your process up and running, you will always have to open your Eclipse IDE (for instance) and go into manual coding. This is not bad, but the ony approach that REALLY works in more complex BPM-projects than the holiday-workflow-thingie.
cheers Jakob
