SharePoint to Share migration

[amolchavan]

Hi All,

I would like to ask all community members -
Have anyone ever tried SharePoint to Share migration?
We are trying to do it but facing lot of issues. Seems Alfresco just claims that Share is SharePoint killer but in practical it really lacks basic functionality like parent-child site hierarchy, permission issues - which they have implemented in Web Client but could not implement it in Share which is very funny.

Also, any community member who tried SharePoint to Share migration, please let me know, I would like to have knowledge base from you people.

When I say migration, I mean to say we are going to move all documents from SharePoint to Alfresco Share along with their associated meta-data, version history, etc.
But when I was doing R & d for this, I observed that Share lacks very basic feature of site hierarchy.
Also User Interface of Share is not that great.

I would like to ask Alfresco Engg., Is this task - migrating documents from SharePoint to Share achievable?

A quick response would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!!!

[mikeh]

We are trying to do it but facing lot of issues. Seems Alfresco just claims that Share is SharePoint killer but in practical it really lacks basic functionality like parent-child site hierarchy, permission issues - which they have implemented in Web Client but could not implement it in Share which is very funny.

We plan to offer a form of parent-child site hierarchy in a future version, although it likely won't be identical to SharePoint's implementation. If you have a set of concrete requirements, we'd be glad to hear them. However if this is the absolute "must have", "can't migrate without it" feature then you'd better keep paying Microsoft for a little while!

What permission issues by the way? What "couldn't be implemented in Share"..?

Also User Interface of Share is not that great.

Maybe somewhat more constructive criticism would help us to improve the product? :roll:

I would like to ask Alfresco Engg., Is this task - migrating documents from SharePoint to Share achievable?

Have you seen this area of our website? http://www.alfresco.com/services/migration/

Thanks,
Mike

P.S. We've long-since dropped the "SharePoint killer" marketing term.

[amolchavan]

First of all thanks for your quick reply!!!

We are trying to do it but facing lot of issues. Seems Alfresco just claims that Share is SharePoint killer but in practical it really lacks basic functionality like parent-child site hierarchy, permission issues - which they have implemented in Web Client but could not implement it in Share which is very funny.

We plan to offer a form of parent-child site hierarchy in a future version, although it likely won't be identical to SharePoint's implementation. If you have a set of concrete requirements, we'd be glad to hear them. However if this is the absolute "must have", "can't migrate without it" feature then you'd better keep paying Microsoft for a little while!

I would like to see it implemented in Share in future version.

What permission issues by the way? What "couldn't be implemented in Share"..?

Regarding permission issues there are so many issues already reported in this forum. Very simple example for this would be - If we have site 'Test' having two folders 'A' and 'B' in its document library and if we want user from Group A can see only A folder and Group B user can see only folder 'B'. let me know how will you achieve this in Share? In web client it is straight forward. Suggest me how would you achieve this without creating custom permission group and using out of box permission groups available in Share?

Also User Interface of Share is not that great.

Maybe somewhat more constructive criticism would help us to improve the product? :roll:

You can check out SharePoint UI to get the basic details on this. SharePoint UI is more user friendly. I will certainly provide more inputs on it as and when I get a chance to do so since even as a developer I find UI is more confusing.

I would like to ask Alfresco Engg., Is this task - migrating documents from SharePoint to Share achievable?

Have you seen this area of our website? http://www.alfresco.com/services/migration/

I think I was clear when I said migrating from SharePoint to Share and not to Alfresco repository in Web Client. We were trying to use Talend integration tool initially for migration of documents from SharePoint to Alfresco Web Client but later on we thought of using Share since Alfresco claims it as replacement or competitor for SharePoint.
We wanted to use Share since it has Site and other features such as calendar, lists. etc. that you normally find in SharePoint. However, since it do not provide hierarchical structure of sites, we are thinking about work around of having site for every dept.
Correct me if I am wrong - we can migrate data using ETL tool to Alfresco repository but not to Sites. Since managing sites from alfresco web client normally cause weird behavior when you explore the actual Site in Share. Or is there a way to migrate all documents, folder structures along with permissions, meta-data to Alfresco Share sites or do you think instead of migrating document to any folder in under Company Home, we can migrate it directly to 'Sites' folder with no issues?
How will permission work in this case?

Also, I would like to say this here that I created custom permission groups with the help of following link and it worked like a charm -
http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Custom_Permissions_in_Share
and as mentioned in this wiki page,

A note of caution. If you add custom roles after you create sites those sites will break. While there may be a way to get around that the instructions in this guide assume this is a clean install with no sites created.

we need to create all custom permission groups and roles before we create actual site or else it will create issues while inviting user/groups to site saying 'Authority not exist' exception. Do you think any other way to achieve this?

Also one question - Would you advise migrating SharePoint to Share or SharePoint to Web Client and then use custom user interface (UI) on top to reflect the site structure?

Thanks,
Mike

P.S. We've long-since dropped the "SharePoint killer" marketing term.

[shanavas]

Have got any solution for this? we are in the same situation looking for a solution to migrate from SharePoint to Alfresco. We need to migrate documents and access details. It would be a great help if you could share anything on this. Thanks in advance.

[amolchavan]

Anybody? any suggestions or help on this?

Seems nobody has ever done this migration!!!