02-27-2007 02:45 PM
02-27-2007 04:04 PM
I've been working with 2.0, and it appears that the ability to enter structured XML via Xforms is tied in with the whole optional WCM feature? Is this necessary? It seems like it would be handy to be able to use Xforms as part of the general CMS, without confusing the issue with web site management.
02-28-2007 01:50 AM
02-28-2007 06:46 PM
The thing is, I just don't buy the whole WCM / virtualization scheme.. I find it useful when you are creating a simple site with lots of contributors (wikies?, digg?). My sites aren't like that. In fact, I usually have to build overly complex situations (that needs loads of backend logic) managed by a handful of users (it can be later consumed by thousands). The CMS part shines there, offering a good repository, Spring integration and advanced capabilities (WS, search, versatile uploading, ..). WCM is too complex for just..too little? I rather go with a portal approach. Maybe it's just me, of course. I'm no expert here.
02-28-2007 06:48 PM
Please vote for WCM-303 (separate XForms from WCM.)
03-04-2007 06:11 AM
Please note: Even if you are a single developer working on a site, the concept behind WCM is that sandboxes also act as a source code management environment for your web application … so, you get the benefits of file versioning, snapshoting, preview, deployment (coming with 2.0.1), and rollback. Even if not deploying to large numbers of contributors with lots of distributed publishing via forms, the source code versioning model (Subversion-like, but tailored for web apps with layers and promotion models between repos and deployment and virtualization) is hopefully quite useful.Yes, of course. I can understand the value but I would rather use Alfresco as the content repository and keep those issues at Subversion. Subversion (coupled with something like Ant or Maven) already offers all those capabilities and just manages Java sources, classes and libraries better (among othe things). I don't know if I really need another tool for this. I don't know if WCM can even compare with other SCM tools out there, really.
Please note that we haven't exposed the full power of the underlying repo yet in the web client - branching, merging, cross-repo comparisions, change set integration, etc. - are all available server-side but yet to be exposed. That'll be forthcoming in future releases 2H07.Is WCM a SCM then? Do you intend us to drop [Subversion / Ant / CruiseControl] (for example) and use it instead? I think I am a little bit confused on the final goals of WCM. Do you have a document that clarifies this?
03-04-2007 10:04 AM
03-04-2007 11:21 PM
03-05-2007 01:08 AM
Yes, of course. I can understand the value but I would rather use Alfresco as the content repository and keep those issues at Subversion. Subversion (coupled with something like Ant or Maven) already offers all those capabilities and just manages Java sources, classes and libraries better (among othe things). I don't know if I really need another tool for this. I don't know if WCM can even compare with other SCM tools out there, really.
Is WCM a SCM then? Do you intend us to drop [Subversion / Ant / CruiseControl] (for example) and use it instead? I think I am a little bit confused on the final goals of WCM. Do you have a document that clarifies this?
03-05-2007 04:05 AM
The goal is to ensure we provide (a) proper in-context preview of both code and content (b) single archive of record for snapshot of entire source tree of your website/web app and © single point of deployment and rollback of your runtime environment (coming with our new deployment service in 2.0.1).
To this end, should your developers choose to leverage an existing SCM, the recommended practice is to leverage Alfresco as a staging server and target the output a build to an Alfresco sandbox, where it can be previewed, tested, and then submitted to staging to (a) ensure all contributors on an ongoing basis are testing content against the latest, greatest working version of the site and (b) snapshot and deploy both code and content.
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