12-04-2007 05:09 PM
11-19-2008 07:48 PM
Sorry, I don't understand your "more time" argument. I think it's a little naive to think that Alfresco is trying hard to do different. I think they know exactly what they are doing (and they've been right so far!).
11-19-2008 07:57 PM
11-22-2008 11:56 PM
1. Source code is CLOSED. We have only dirty HEAD code. Fixes from community as long as fixes from alfresco team is not in HEAD. Community assist to make ENTERPRISE version more stable but this stability inaccessible for community. It's stealing towards us (Community). We help make Alfresco better ECM but only for commecial users.
I have colorful example on statments above: in one of my projtcts I've use Alfresco CE 2.1. After clean install on my portal (liferay 4.2.2) I try to upload some content - exception. 100% reproducable. I search in JIRA and WOW - bug is fixed ONLY for ENTERPRISE (http://issues.alfresco.com/browse/AWC-1493).
After that case I've many similar troubls…
2. Developer documentation is inaccessible. See at Spring, Hibernate, Apache projects (all used in Alfresco) - developer documentation is open and absolutly free. In case of Alfresco we have some small wiki articles - not more. Many of them is out of date.
Alfresco CE is not intended for production usage! It's my bloody expirience.
11-23-2008 12:36 AM
But my experience is that companies that run mission-critical will anyway buy support, no matter what quality of code is, and those who can only use free Open Source will never pay (just because they never do that). But they will definitely put demerits on Alfresco for broken releases.
11-23-2008 11:01 AM
Third, if, in fact, you have contributed code to Labs (and, hence, to Enterprise, as you say), can you please show me what code you have contributed? I hear a lot about Alfresco taking from you, but the only thing I see is Alfresco giving you thousands and thousands of lines of excellent code. I have yet to see what you are prepared to contribute back….
11-23-2008 04:19 PM
11-23-2008 11:00 PM
Well, I used to use Fedora and I dumped it, I am not Linus Torvald and don't need to twinker around with operating systems or anything else. Then I used RedHat Enterprise Linux and I dumped it because I found out that I could get CentOS for free. I don't need any support, so what do I need RedHad Enterprise Linux for. Then I found Ubuntu and dumped even CentOS. I don't need a copy of something if I can have an original. I think that Ubuntu has the right Open Source model. Take the whole thing for free and if you need support then buy it, if not, then no need to. The Ubuntu model will succeed, the other I am not so sure about.
What do you say, my friends?
12-04-2008 08:04 PM
12-07-2008 08:31 PM
Well, I used to use Fedora and I dumped it, I am not Linus Torvald and don't need to twinker around with operating systems or anything else. Then I used RedHat Enterprise Linux and I dumped it because I found out that I could get CentOS for free. I don't need any support, so what do I need RedHad Enterprise Linux for. Then I found Ubuntu and dumped even CentOS. I don't need a copy of something if I can have an original. I think that Ubuntu has the right Open Source model. Take the whole thing for free and if you need support then buy it, if not, then no need to. The Ubuntu model will succeed, the other I am not so sure about.
What do you say, my friends?
I think I'd say that the Ubuntu model has so far only worked when a billionaire is willing to pump tens of millions of dollars into propping up the business each year. I'm glad that you have bought into this system (I know Mark S. and he's trying very hard to find a sustainable model that doesn't depend on the bits, and I'm rooting for him to succeed), but you seem to want a model that has proved to fail in every case except when someone with a lot of cash can subsidize a failed business model.
That's not us, unfortunately, and you've managed to find the only commercial project that can subsist that way.
12-09-2008 02:55 PM
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