Tagging in the web client - tag locations

[rscheele]

I just added the aspect Taggable to a document using the Run Action - Add aspect to item from the Web Client. From the property page i can now edit the tags of the document, but where can i create and view the tags? They dont show up in the Category Management menu under Tags from the Admin Console. I can create, view and edit tags from the property page of the document; but they don't sync with Category Management > Tags.

[mikeh]

That's correct; in order to allow everyone access to freely add tags, we had to create a new top-level category root with the appropriate permissions. You can see it using the node browser, should you be interested in the detail.

In v2.9 tagging is most useful when using the Office Add-in, as you're presented with a tag cloud in a new tab, as well as being able to add/remove tags from the current document. In theory you could create a web script-based custom view within the Web Client by looking at the code behind this tab.

thanks,
Mike

[trelofysikos]

How can i make everyone see the tags sub category and not his own tags?

Or is there a way of adding some pre-defined tags in there ? maybe tag categories as well ?

[mikeh]

Tags live alongside the standard categories and aren't visible on the Categories page. Also, tags are "global" - nobody has their own tags.

Once you've added the "taggable" aspect to some content, a tag picker will be available on the details page, where you can browse and add tags.

Thanks,
Mike

[trelofysikos]

Tags live alongside the standard categories and aren't visible on the Categories page. Also, tags are "global" - nobody has their own tags.

Sorry i got that wrong, misinterpreted your previous post.

I have installed alfresco labs 3 final and by adding the "taggable" aspect i have the tag picker available.
But the picker doesn't show the tags created under Administration->category management –>tags.
The only visible tags are those created in that dialog and moreover there is no way to remove them, other than from the database node.

How can i make the tags in categories show up in the dialog after i add the "taggable" aspect ?

thanks

[mikeh]

Tags live alongside the standard categories and aren't visible on the Categories page.

Tags and Categories are the same type, but different uses, hence they are quite separate in the UI. Tags don't show up in the Categories pickers and vice versa. We should probably remove that "Tags" category you're seeing as it causes confusion.

Tags should be removable - I'll take a look at that.

Mike

[trelofysikos]

ok, if i understand correctly Tags selector, shown in properties of a file with the "taggable" aspect, doesn't take its contents from
Administration->category management->tags, right ?

http://img21.imageshack.us/my.php?image=taggable.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=management.jpg

So where does it take its contents from ?

What i'm trying to do is make some pre-defined tags along with tag categories for the user.
I have a space with the rule "All items–>Aply aspect–>taggable".
When a user uploads a file in the space he/she can choose the pre-defined tags from the tag selector.
These tags are way to many so i have to categorize them.

Where can I define these tag categories and tags, so they show up in the selector ?


I hope i was clear and haven't confused you.
Thanks

[mikeh]

That's correct. This is easier explained if you use the Node Browser to look at: workspace://SpacesStore then categoryRoot. In there are two nodes: generalclassifiable and taggable.

The Category UI looks at anything under the "generalclassifiable" node. These nodes are read-only for anyone other than the admin users and are known as "Categories" throughout the UI. This is what you're looking at in your management.jpg image. The administrator has full control over categories, which can also be hierarchical.

Tagging, originally implemented for the Office add-in but also used heavily in Share is only available in the Explorer (JSF) client through the Tag picker control (your taggable.jpg image). By tagging a piece of content yourself, you'll be adding nodes under the "taggable" root node and your other users will be able to pick from these or create their own tags. Tags are a flat structure - no hierarchy. This is a UI / usability design decision, rather than a technical limitation.

Does that help?
Mike

[trelofysikos]

yes thank you! I understand how it works now


But is there a way to somehow "tag" a document with a selector that works like the categories selector ?

Or maybe point the selector at the "tags" category when uploading a document?

I could use a rule to link the document with a category but how can i give the user the ability to choose, at upload, the category to link to ?


Thanks again

[trelofysikos]

I found a solution to use categories when uploading a document.

Add the generalclassifiable aspect in the web-client-config-custom.xml both in Action Wizards and for the property-sheet

…
<config evaluator="aspect-name" condition="cm:generalclassifiable">
     <property-sheet>
          <show-property name="cm:categories" display-label-id="categories"/>
     </property-sheet>
</config>
<config evaluator="string-compare" condition="Action Wizards">
     <aspects>
     …
          <aspect name="cm:generalclassifiable" />
     …
     </aspects>
</config>
…
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and in any space make a rule for All files to take the aspect of Classifiable (there might be two Classifiable aspects select the second one)

So now you can attach categories to files when you upload them