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Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

paulhh — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:41:12 GMT

We would like to announce that the V2.0 Community Release of Alfresco is now available. This release introduces a number of new features, including:- GPL with FLOSS exception - Web Content Managment 1.0 with: - Web Project Wizard - Forms Management Wizard - Website Development a

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

flin — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 19:45:19 GMT

Congratulations guys!

I'm becoming a fan of Alfresco now that I'm working with it every day

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Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

miguel_gil_mart — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:16:43 GMT

Congratulations!!!!! Good job!!!! I am sure Alfresco is about to be a "killer application". Everybody is going to use more Java, more FLOSS, more "Community Knowledge", more freedom… Congratulations!!!!

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

adepue — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 20:49:59 GMT

Doesn't the move to GPL mean that a commercial vendor can no longer integrate Alfresco into their product without either releasing their own source code or getting a commercial license of Alfresco?

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

jimisola — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:59:53 GMT

Hi,

In another thread I wrote the following:

I'm currently evaluation Alfresco, but the Community edition has some major drawback:

- patches (bug and security fixes) are not available according to comparison (http://www.alfresco.com/products/ecm/comparison/😞 I want an install that I don't have to upgrade every other day other than bug and security fixes every now and then
- read that security was missing from the open source version, but it seem to have changed. correct?

Assuming that the rumour of the license change to GPL is correct, how will it affect the above?

I can now gladly confirm that 2.0 is licensed as GPL

However, I am unable to find answers to my actual questions. I read that Community Network is unsupported - in what way? Human/helpdesk support? Bug and security fixes?

Alfresco seems to be a great application, but not being able to get bug and security fixes renders it "I don't want to say use-less, but troublesome". Maintainence will take too much time then.

It would be very helpful if you can provide more information as this is a showstopper for us (I'm evaluating the software for a minor student union and alumni site).

Regards,
Jimisola

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

ejml — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:03:31 GMT

Congratulations folk, this is great!!

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

jmliege — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:33:58 GMT

Congratulations!!!!! Good job!!!! I am sure Alfresco is about to be a "killer application". Everybody is going to use more Java, more FLOSS, more "Community Knowledge", more freedom… Congratulations!!!!

Your forgot to mention : "more support, "…. :wink:

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

paulhh — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:44:14 GMT

Hi Jimisola

The Community version is only supported through this forum, by the community, which does include the developers.

Alfresco employs its staff, so it needs to pay them - if an organization wants support, it pays for support. There are support discounts for academia and charities. People on paid support get direct access to our support team and intermediate stable bug-fix releases.

In an ideal world, we'd all wander around the shops and pick out our free iPods and then download our fav band's music for free on our free Internet connection 🙂

Cheers
Paul.

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

jimisola — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 09:57:47 GMT

Paul,

I think that you misunderstood me, perhaps I was not clear enough.

I fully understand that if an organization wants non-forum support concerning installation/configuraton/etc for a product it pays for it.

That was not the issue, the issue is that there are no security and/or bug fixes for the Community Network edition of the product and this is not (what I call) support.

What does this mean? Is Community Network merely a beta and I might have to end up running an unsecure software for weeks/months? Am I always able to upgrade from one Community Network edition version to another? The documentation is not clear on this.

Feels like I should have chosen a different forum/thread for this. Feel free to move it.

Regards,
Jimisola

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

mjasay — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:51:55 GMT

jimisola writes…

That was not the issue, the issue is that there are no security and/or bug fixes for the Community Network edition of the product and this is not (what I call) support.

This is not quite true. We do provide bug fixes for Community (No one would have interest in Alfresco if it was so buggy that it didn't work), but it is true that we work on our Enterprise bug fixes first (just as MySQL does - see http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/supportpolicies/policies-03.html#q01).

Ideally, we'd like to see our community self-heal, as it were, the Community code. It's not much of a community if Alfresco does all the work. Nor is it much of a community if non-Alfresco developers do. We're looking for a happy medium, and welcome your feedback as to what that "medium" is.

Net net: we feel strongly that our growth will continue to be tightly aligned to the growth and interest of unpaid Alfresco usage. We just need to make sure we keep honest with our community and also make a living. I have four kids to feed, after all. 🙂

So, the bits are free, the service (support, immediate bug fixes, certification of third-party apps, etc.) is not. But you should feel comfortable giving Community a try - there are 6,000+ active installations of it worldwide. It works very well (sometimes too well for the sales guys among us :- ).

Matt

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

jimisola — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:03:26 GMT

This is not quite true. We do provide bug fixes for Community (No one would have interest in Alfresco if it was so buggy that it didn't work), but it is true that we work on our Enterprise bug fixes first (just as MySQL does - see http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/supportpolicies/policies-03.html#q01).

Great! The information on the web site stated the opposite before (if I'm not mistaking), so I was not sure if things had change with 2.0. The MySQL model obviously work quite well, so it looks promising for Alfresco

So, the bits are free, the service (support, immediate bug fixes, certification of third-party apps, etc.) is not. But you should feel comfortable giving Community a try - there are 6,000+ active installations of it worldwide. It works very well (sometimes too well for the sales guys among us :- ).

I'm quite certain that we'll give it a try. I'll just need to figure out more on how it integrates with Portals (JBoss especially) as we would to use it as the underlying CMS (instead of JBoss' default one).

I appreciate your reply. That was the kind of information I was hoping for initially

Keep up the good work!

Regards,
Jimisola

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

aborba — Mon, 26 Feb 2007 14:04:04 GMT

2.0 Preview version provided RM functionality.
It is not present on 2.0 community release. Are there any plans to implement it in the future?

Re: Alfresco 2.0 Available - now GPL with FLOSS

kevinr — Tue, 27 Feb 2007 17:49:21 GMT

http://forums.alfresco.com/viewtopic.php?t=5409&highlight=