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Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

flefoll — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:34:53 GMT

Ok, Alfresco Cloud is only in Beta, my comments are therefore conditionals,but I believe Alfresco company knows the weakness of their own product, The pointed limitations are unfortunately based on a real knowledge of their own product…1) Alfresco Cloud is not alfresco, it's "Share only".Do not expe

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

mikeh — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:50:47 GMT

Firstly, thank you for taking the time signing-up and trying the current Alfresco Cloud offering.

Alfresco Cloud is only in Beta…

Mostly this.

Our plans for cloud are huge. The on-premise Share product is a great starting point, but we felt it much too complicated for the "Box" and "Dropbox" type of customers we'd like to attract. Hence certain features have been disabled for now.

It might be better if you re-worded your criticisms in a somewhat more constructive way and posted them to the GetSatisfaction.com site specifically for Alfresco Cloud feedback.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

flefoll — Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:04:32 GMT

Hi,

As you write it down, Alfresco Cloud is a nice "Dropbox" equivalent (even if it's provided today without ftp/webdav access…),
I was expecting an "Alfresco" equivalent software, we are just not speaking about the same product.

Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco,
A simple suggestion if you do not want create frustration for who knows your product, rename it as "Alfresco Share Cloud".

Regards.

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

samudaya — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 05:29:21 GMT

Hi all,

I also tried Alfresco Cloud version. I would like to have at-least Alfresco Explore with it.

Thanks
SAMU

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

mrogers — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 09:13:06 GMT

I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Why do you want Alfresco Explorer in the cloud?

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

jamesfletcher — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 12:51:21 GMT

Hi all,

I also tried Alfresco Cloud version. I would like to have at-least Alfresco Explore with it.

Thanks
SAMU

SAMU,

I guess one thing here is that Alfresco in the cloud can't be customized. Most of the features that are in Alfresco Explore have gone into Share, which is the interface which is used on the cloud platform.

As 'mrogers' says above it would be useful to know what you want to achieve…

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

jamesfletcher — Mon, 09 Jul 2012 13:00:49 GMT

Ok,
Alfresco Cloud is only in Beta, my comments are therefore conditionals,
but I believe Alfresco company knows the weakness of their own product,
The pointed limitations are unfortunately based on a real knowledge of their own product…

1) Alfresco Cloud is not alfresco, it's "Share only".
Do not expect putting some custom webscript, some scripted action or some custom RSS template…

2) Going a little bit further than simple flat document management ?
Not at all, replication, WCM/Web Quick start or media/social export are not available…

3) Google Doc integration ?
I said no…

4) Records management ?
If they decides to put it available, it's well hidden until now…

5) CMIS, SOAP or REST API ?
No, you will not use Alfresco Cloud to feed or to be feed by anything else…

6) Share Surf extension into your own tenancy (sorry, “network” in Alfresco Cloud naming) ?
No, be happy with default client's interface, do not extend or override anything…

I wasn't expecting unrealistic possibilities, like deploying your own custom transformer,
or having the possibility to use my local Share webapp (which should have been possible with an other design, and would have been much more interesting !).
And I really understand why they done these limitations.

Nevertheless, to me, it's exactly as officially claiming their real product is definitively not adapted in its rich features to massive deployment.
No ?

Regards,

Francois

Francois,

Thanks for your feedback it really is valuable in making Alfresco in the cloud a better product. We position Alfresco in the cloud as the same platform just multi-tenant and hosted by us in our data center. We have a very aggressive roadmap http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/2012_Product_Roadmap#Alfresco_in_the_Cloud over the next few months to get some of those features you list into the platform.

I wonder, were you looking to replace your on-premise platform to Alfresco in the cloud?

Let me know if I can help at all…

Cheers, James.

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

mbrumley — Tue, 24 Jul 2012 17:05:07 GMT

To some degree I have to echo the OP's sentiments.

I've spent most of the last two days researching this system, the sole survivor of my original top 10 list of ECM candidates. In that time I've become increasingly unsure of whether much of what I liked about the system was actually available in the cloud. Several times I stopped what I was doing to launch "Share vs. Cloud" searches, to no avail.

Somehow, you seem to have overlooked the possibility that someone who comes across your website and launches a cloud-based demo might take for granted that, in the absence of any clear evidence to the contrary, everything he sees is available in the cloud. In fact, though it seems obvious now, I didn't even realize there *were* distinct versions & capability sets until today.

In two hours I have to make a presentation to an IT team using the 32-page document I have been crafting. I'm now going to have to preface that presentation with "Most of the really cool stuff I'm about to show you we can't actually have yet, since we're specifically looking for a cloud version and theirs is actually quite limited." Try to imagine the mood I'm in right now.

One of my co-workers has his own presentation based on his pick, Box.com. I don't think their system has anywhere near the long-term potential that yours does, both in the market and for our company. I also don't think that's going to matter.

If, in the vast wealth of documentation I've been perusing the last two days, there exists a clear delineation between the two systems and their respective features and capabilities (and, in particular, the degree to which they can be integrated, extended, and customized), perhaps you could point it out to me. If not, you might want to consider creating one.

Thanks,
Mike

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

t_sato — Mon, 10 Sep 2012 02:42:18 GMT

Hi,

As you write it down, Alfresco Cloud is a nice "Dropbox" equivalent (even if it's provided today without ftp/webdav access…),
I was expecting an "Alfresco" equivalent software, we are just not speaking about the same product.

I am new to Alfresco, only a month. The cloud offering is very attractive for non-core-ECM users like me.

In fact, as it is mentioned in the official document, "Shared Drive" feature is overlooked. It gave me a new experience when I tried on my server. I am really looking forward to it on the cloud.

I am sure I will learn the depth of content management that Alfresco can offer. But it wouldn't happen if I had not tried Alfresco on the cloud.

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

fionnuala — Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:26:01 GMT

If, in the vast wealth of documentation I've been perusing the last two days, there exists a clear delineation between the two systems and their respective features and capabilities (and, in particular, the degree to which they can be integrated, extended, and customized), perhaps you could point it out to me. If not, you might want to consider creating one.

Thanks,
Mike

I would echo this request, it's not clear what can be expected in cloud. I don't expect everything to be available, especially not immediately, but I don't understand why there isn't a simple comparison table, that would have saved hours of perplexity. Even a statement on the Cloud Documentation site that the documentation there describes the full functionality would have helped, it was so limited in comparison to all the great things I'd heard about Alfresco that I thought it must just be an intro.

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

dgildeh — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 12:59:59 GMT

Hi everyone,

I'm just catching up on the forum posts here. I wrote a blog on this discussion around the time the first post in this topic was made:

http://blogs.alfresco.com/wp/alfresco-in-the-cloud-faq/

The Cloud will evolve into the full featured offering of its own over time, but in the mean time the Cloud has been designed for the following use cases which compliment Alfresco Enterprise with the new Enterprise Sync. connector to extend Alfresco across the firewall, or to be used stand-alone for general collaboration and file sharing:

B2B collaboration/file sharing

Mobile device access to content outside the firewall

Integration with other Cloud services such as Google Apps, and in future Salesforce.com

We will feed in other popular features into the Cloud product over time to meet the demand and use cases users require on the Cloud. However Cloud has to be more 'out of the box' than Enterprise (which can be customised and extended unlike Cloud) so the way we deliver features to users needs to be more use case driven than feature driven.

Thanks,

David

Re: Alfresco Cloud is not Alfresco

rdanner — Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:08:41 GMT

If you’re thinking about Alfresco Cloud as a simple collaboration application or a simple cloud based content store it’s time to rethink.

http://blogs.rivetlogic.com/rdanner/2013/02/28/alfresco-cloud-is-much-more-than-meets-the-eye/