topic Behavior of variables in embedded subprocesses in Alfresco Archive https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220838#M173968 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><SPAN>The documentation did not have any information on this, so I wanted to confirm what my experimental testing found:</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>1) If you have an embedded subprocesses, you don't need to re-define the variables in the start event of the subprocess. A sequence flow coming out of a gateway in an embedded subprocess can read the variable values defined in the parent.</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>2) If you have a naming conflict with a variable with the same ID but different default values in the parent start event and subprocess start event, activiti will use the value from the parent. I find this unintuitive, I would expect the embedded subprocess to pick up on the most "local" variable, aka the one in the subprocess start event. </SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>See BPMN below which I tested with. In the gateway in the embedded subprocess, the variable evaluated to "true", which was the value set in the parent start event (false was the value set in the subprocess start event).</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>&lt;?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&lt;definitions expressionLanguage="</SPAN><A href="http://www.w3.org/1999/XPath" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.w3.org/1999/XPath</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id="definitions" targetNamespace="testSubProcessWithVarCategory"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; typeLanguage="</SPAN><A href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns="</SPAN><A href="http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/20100524/MODEL" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/20100524/MODEL</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns:activiti="</SPAN><A href="http://activiti.org/bpmn" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://activiti.org/bpmn</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns:bpmndi="</SPAN><A href="http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/20100524/DI" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/20100524/DI</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns<img id="smileysurprised" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysurprised" src="https://connect.hyland.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.png" alt="Smiley Surprised" title="Smiley Surprised" />mgdc="</SPAN><A href="http://www.omg.org/spec/DD/20100524/DC" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.omg.org/spec/DD/20100524/DC</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns<img id="smileysurprised" class="emoticon emoticon-smileysurprised" src="https://connect.hyland.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-surprised.png" alt="Smiley Surprised" title="Smiley Surprised" />mgdi="</SPAN><A href="http://www.omg.org/spec/DD/20100524/DI" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.omg.org/spec/DD/20100524/DI</A><SPAN>"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; xmlns:xsd="</SPAN><A href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema</A><SPAN>" xmlns:xsi="</SPAN><A href="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer">http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance</A><SPAN>"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;process id="subprocessvarscope" isExecutable="true" name="test sub process"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;startEvent activiti:async="true" id="start" name="Start"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;activiti:formProperty default="true" id="task1Var1Id"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; name="var1_name" required="true" type="boolean"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;activiti:formProperty id="task1Var2Id" name="var2_name"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; required="true" type="string"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/startEvent&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;serviceTask activiti:async="true"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; activiti:class="com.google.partnerservices.symphony.core.SymphonyTaskDelegate"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id="task1" name="task 1"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;activiti:field name="variableNames"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;activiti:string&gt;&lt;![CDATA[task1Var1Id, task1Var2Id]]&gt;&lt;/activiti:string&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/activiti:field&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/serviceTask&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;subProcess id="subProcess1" name="subProcess"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;startEvent activiti:async="true" id="subProcessStart" name="sub Process Start Event"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;activiti:formProperty default="false"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id="task1Var1Id" name="var1_name"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; required="true" type="boolean"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/extensionElements&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/startEvent&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;serviceTask activiti:async="true"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; activiti:class="com.google.partnerservices.symphony.core.SymphonyTaskDelegate"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id="task2" name="if var1 = true"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;endEvent activiti:async="true" id="subProcessEnd" name="sub process end event"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="subProcessFlow1"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; sourceRef="subProcessStart" targetRef="exclusivegateway1"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="subProcessFlow2" sourceRef="task2" targetRef="subProcessEnd"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;exclusiveGateway id="exclusivegateway1" name="Exclusive Gateway"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow4" sourceRef="exclusivegateway1" targetRef="task2"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;conditionExpression xsi:type="tFormalExpression"&gt;&lt;![CDATA[${task1Var1Id == 'true'}]]&gt;&lt;/conditionExpression&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/sequenceFlow&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;serviceTask activiti:async="true"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; activiti:class="com.google.partnerservices.symphony.core.SymphonyTaskDelegate"</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; id="servicetask1" name="Service Task"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow5" sourceRef="exclusivegateway1" targetRef="servicetask1"&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;conditionExpression xsi:type="tFormalExpression"&gt;&lt;![CDATA[${task1Var1Id == 'false'}]]&gt;&lt;/conditionExpression&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/sequenceFlow&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow6" sourceRef="servicetask1" targetRef="subProcessEnd"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/subProcess&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;endEvent id="end" name="End"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow1" sourceRef="start" targetRef="task1"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow2" sourceRef="task1" targetRef="subProcess1"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;sequenceFlow id="flow3" sourceRef="subProcess1" targetRef="end"/&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &lt;/process&gt;</SPAN><BR /><SPAN>&lt;/definitions&gt;</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>Any reason why this behavior was chosen, since it feels more unintuitive? Can this be added to the Activiti documentation?</SPAN></BODY></HTML> Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:15:15 GMT meweiss 2015-12-15T01:15:15Z Behavior of variables in embedded subprocesses https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220838#M173968 The documentation did not have any information on this, so I wanted to confirm what my experimental testing found:1) If you have an embedded subprocesses, you don't need to re-define the variables in the start event of the subprocess. A sequence flow coming out of a gateway in an embedded subprocess Tue, 15 Dec 2015 01:15:15 GMT https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220838#M173968 meweiss 2015-12-15T01:15:15Z Re: Behavior of variables in embedded subprocesses https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220839#M173969 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><SPAN>1. Correct. Embedded subprocesses are a part of the process instance like any other activity. Call Activity is the only exception to that.</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>2. True. This is one of the shortcomings in v5 we're fixing in v6. In v6, there will be a 'subprocess scope' for variables and it will work as you describe (with the local variables)</SPAN><BR /><BR /><SPAN>But in this particular case, I would think the local variable did get chosen. It seems your example is missing from the post. Can you reupload it?</SPAN></BODY></HTML> Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:39:31 GMT https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220839#M173969 jbarrez 2015-12-16T09:39:31Z Re: Behavior of variables in embedded subprocesses https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220840#M173970 <HTML><HEAD></HEAD><BODY><SPAN>Hrm, this BPMN just does not want to post… I tried yesterday and got stuck in an approval queue. Trying again, uploading as an attachment. </SPAN></BODY></HTML> Thu, 17 Dec 2015 21:20:36 GMT https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/behavior-of-variables-in-embedded-subprocesses/m-p/220840#M173970 meweiss 2015-12-17T21:20:36Z