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    <title>topic Re: How can I model this? in Alfresco Archive</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Yes, I'll try…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sometimes, We can model a generic process, this process model the behaviour of some interaction between diferents actors.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;For sample, one process between one secretary and her boss inside a big company.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;But.. this process is so generic.. then is valid for all departments that has a secretary and boss… &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If I model this… inside activiti, secretary is a group, and boss is another group… but then.. all secretaries can see work of other secretaries.. and for privacy reason this is not valid solution…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Then this implies a specific group for each department: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;secretary-dep1, secretary-dep2, etc… and same for boss…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Then… If organization is bigger.. maybe I have 1000 groups for secretaries and another 1000 for boss.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In resum, I think that maybe we need some plus for define the scope of visibility of the data… &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Do you understand my point of view?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>jcosano</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-01-28T11:34:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How can I model this?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32271#M16745</link>
      <description>I have a simplest process, with for sample two groups: administrative and boss.But… this process is very common in my organization… for sample I have 1000 offices with a couple (administrative-boss).How can I work with this process if one administrative of the one office can't see work for other adm</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:49:22 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jcosano</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-27T13:49:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I model this?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32272#M16746</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I don't get your problem. Could you explain it a bit more?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:13:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-28T11:13:41Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I model this?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32273#M16747</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Yes, I'll try…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sometimes, We can model a generic process, this process model the behaviour of some interaction between diferents actors.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;For sample, one process between one secretary and her boss inside a big company.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;But.. this process is so generic.. then is valid for all departments that has a secretary and boss… &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;If I model this… inside activiti, secretary is a group, and boss is another group… but then.. all secretaries can see work of other secretaries.. and for privacy reason this is not valid solution…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Then this implies a specific group for each department: &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;secretary-dep1, secretary-dep2, etc… and same for boss…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Then… If organization is bigger.. maybe I have 1000 groups for secretaries and another 1000 for boss.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In resum, I think that maybe we need some plus for define the scope of visibility of the data… &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Do you understand my point of view?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32273#M16747</guid>
      <dc:creator>jcosano</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-28T11:34:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I model this?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32274#M16748</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Ok now I understand your problem&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;can't you retrieve your secretary at runtime? I mean:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;lt;userTask activiti:assignee="secretaryLookupService.getSecretary(boss)", where boss is a process variable ?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:41:25 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-28T11:41:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I model this?</title>
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      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Yes…. I think, this can be a valid solution!!&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I though that task only can be assigned to user or group… now I read that I can define a listener to delegate assignment.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:53:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32275#M16749</guid>
      <dc:creator>jcosano</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-28T11:53:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How can I model this?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/how-can-i-model-this/m-p/32276#M16750</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Indeed &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You can use an expression on assignee/candidateUsers/groups, but you can also use a task listener to do the assignment.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 12:02:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-01-28T12:02:40Z</dc:date>
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