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    <title>topic Re: Dealing with activity failures in Alfresco Archive</title>
    <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193902#M147032</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive-quote"&gt;You could use this information to fetch the BpmnModel and get more information about the activity that failed.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sure, but this is in the context of getting the "first" 20 failures or hundreds - and the fields available for pagination/sorting today are not very useful.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Take a system that has been running for a couple months and has hundreds of failures, there is no easy way today to get the 20 most recent ones to show the user, not without full table scans.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive-quote"&gt;&amp;gt; I am considering having recordActivityStart run in its own transaction&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Not following what you mean with this&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Take a bogus Groovy script for example (var x = bogus_variable&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://connect.hyland.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;: when the activity starts, DefaultHistoryManager.recordActivityStart is called and queues an insert for act_hi_actinst; when the sctip fails however that insert is discarded as the transaction is rolled back.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;As a result you can't match the job that failed with an activity in act_hi_actinst.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;What I did for now is that I used a rollback listener to call recordActivityStart, this time after the transaction has been rolled back. I can now go from job-with-exception to execution to activity instance nad find out which activity triggered the failure.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:28:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>franck102</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-03-31T12:28:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Dealing with activity failures</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193900#M147030</link>
      <description>Hi, we are trying to create management UI around process failures and we are running into two specific issues. This is in the context of numerous historical and long-running processes, so all queries must be paginated.The fisrt issue is that the act_ru_job is the only table that has a trace of the f</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 12:58:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193900#M147030</guid>
      <dc:creator>franck102</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-27T12:58:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Dealing with activity failures</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193901#M147031</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; Wouldn't it make sense to add a failure timestamp (or end_time_ or something) to that table?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;It would, yes.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; The consequence is that for a failed activity the only information we have in the DB is a BPMN act_id, which isn't very useful to the user.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;You could use this information to fetch the BpmnModel and get more information about the activity that failed.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; I am considering having recordActivityStart run in its own transaction&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Not following what you mean with this&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:47:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193901#M147031</guid>
      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-31T08:47:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Dealing with activity failures</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193902#M147032</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive-quote"&gt;You could use this information to fetch the BpmnModel and get more information about the activity that failed.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Sure, but this is in the context of getting the "first" 20 failures or hundreds - and the fields available for pagination/sorting today are not very useful.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Take a system that has been running for a couple months and has hundreds of failures, there is no easy way today to get the 20 most recent ones to show the user, not without full table scans.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE class="jive-quote"&gt;&amp;gt; I am considering having recordActivityStart run in its own transaction&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Not following what you mean with this&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Take a bogus Groovy script for example (var x = bogus_variable&lt;img id="smileywink" class="emoticon emoticon-smileywink" src="https://connect.hyland.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-wink.png" alt="Smiley Wink" title="Smiley Wink" /&gt;: when the activity starts, DefaultHistoryManager.recordActivityStart is called and queues an insert for act_hi_actinst; when the sctip fails however that insert is discarded as the transaction is rolled back.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;As a result you can't match the job that failed with an activity in act_hi_actinst.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;What I did for now is that I used a rollback listener to call recordActivityStart, this time after the transaction has been rolled back. I can now go from job-with-exception to execution to activity instance nad find out which activity triggered the failure.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2015 12:28:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193902#M147032</guid>
      <dc:creator>franck102</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-31T12:28:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Dealing with activity failures</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193903#M147033</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;gt; As a result you can't match the job that failed with an activity in act_hi_actinst.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;True, but then again the entries in that table are meant for successfully completed activities, hence why the implementation&amp;nbsp; is what it is.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;But you are correct about showing the most recent ones (for async continuations at least, timer jobs can be sorted)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2015 12:23:31 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193903#M147033</guid>
      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-04-07T12:23:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Dealing with activity failures</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193904#M147034</link>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2016 20:55:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/dealing-with-activity-failures/m-p/193904#M147034</guid>
      <dc:creator>rahuls16</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-03-25T20:55:22Z</dc:date>
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