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Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:25:29 GMT

This is the place for community member input for the Alfresco's upcoming 3.0 release - targeted at 31 july 2008. Get the discussion going here!http://wiki.alfresco.com/wiki/Category:3.03.0 Community: July 31, 2008Our next major release, Alfresco 3.0, is slated for Community release at the end of Jul

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:37:44 GMT

* Simple packaging, installation, and updates of Alfresco templated sites and site components (for easy migration of web client customizations across servers or sharing of web client customizations amongst the Community)

First Questions: how out-of-the-box will the assembly of new website on top of Alfresco be? Will it be as easy as dragging and dropping UI components, repository content and thereby allowing a non-technical user creating an simple customized intranet/website for a project within an organisation for collaboration purposes? How will theming be implemented? What customizations can be done?

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:01:47 GMT

* Support for simple invitation to external users to an Alfresco templated social networking / collaboration site, with auto-registration and mixed authentication for internal users via LDAP/ADS and external users via Alfresco itself

Will OpenSocial en OpenID be supported?

And will location-based services be supported, eg adding location based metadata - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language - to your Personal Profile or adding this metadata to documents.

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

ajmillar — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:18:18 GMT

Personally, I feel that the functionality provided by the WCM component is going to be absolutely crucial in making Alfresco the defacto standard for ECM. Out of the box functionality is going to be required to entice more users to come on board that have limited experience.

Another crucial factor is going to be high quality documentation. One of the problems I'm finding at the moment is decyphering what content relates to what version etc.

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

kvc — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:44:07 GMT

* Support for simple invitation to external users to an Alfresco templated social networking / collaboration site, with auto-registration and mixed authentication for internal users via LDAP/ADS and external users via Alfresco itself

Will OpenSocial en OpenID be supported?

And will location-based services be supported, eg adding location based metadata - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyhole_Markup_Language - to your Personal Profile or adding this metadata to documents.

We just had this request for OpenID support as an optional add to your user profile here at our Barcelona Community Conference (where I just finished delivering the 3.0 updates moments ago). This is a great suggestion so that we don't have to prompt the user each time they want to search LinkeIn, Facebook, etc. for a list of people to invite to an Alfresco=hosted site. I will be posting a forum poll on this issues later this week, unless you beat me to it 😉

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

kvc — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:47:25 GMT

* Simple packaging, installation, and updates of Alfresco templated sites and site components (for easy migration of web client customizations across servers or sharing of web client customizations amongst the Community)

First Questions: how out-of-the-box will the assembly of new website on top of Alfresco be? Will it be as easy as dragging and dropping UI components, repository content and thereby allowing a non-technical user creating an simple customized intranet/website for a project within an organisation for collaboration purposes? How will theming be implemented? What customizations can be done?

In 3.0, each site will be comprised of a set of templates and components, all based around a set of XML config files that define things like what components are on a page, how instantiated, etc.

End-users (site administrators) will be able to configure sites and site components based on what's allowed in the template, however the interface for doing so will not be drag-and-drag, WYSIWYG assembly - yet.

A follow-on maintenance release, 3.1, will be delivered by end of year that layers this functionality in (you can see the prototype of it in our Dynamic Website).

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

kvc — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 11:51:57 GMT

Personally, I feel that the functionality provided by the WCM component is going to be absolutely crucial in making Alfresco the defacto standard for ECM. Out of the box functionality is going to be required to entice more users to come on board that have limited experience.

Another crucial factor is going to be high quality documentation. One of the problems I'm finding at the moment is decyphering what content relates to what version etc.

Agreed! Our entire new web client - a web application - will be built, tested, versioned, and deployed from the AVM to another server. It's actually the purpose for which the AVM was
originally designed … the 3.0 release is the natural follow on to our 2.0 release (and it's related 2.x updates, most importantly Web Scripts and Deployment). If you've been following the chronology since day one, you'll see the unmistakenly thread of continuity in strategy.

Because it's in the AVM (which is modeled on Subversion), we'll support excellent change management and release management for new site templates, components, themes, and more.

I think you'll be thrilled with the release. At least, I hope!

Kevin

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

dozyarmadillo — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 17:40:32 GMT

Will the AVM replace the standard DM repository in 3.0?

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

kvc — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:40:56 GMT

No. The AVM will be the repository for managing our web client and any extensions or customizations - basically, assist you with change management, testing, and rollout of new templates and components you (hopefully) download from our upcoming 3.0-Community-hosted extranet site (to aim to facilitate more Community contributions and sharing).

3.0 is designed first and foremost to be a smooth, seamless upgrade. Your existing content models and data will remain. Your JSF client customizations will work. You'll just have new services and a new user experience and a new UI framework to benefit rolling out tailored user experiences for collaboration and networking for your knowledge workers.

More significant repository-level work will be a post 3.0 item on our 2009 roadmap.

Kevin

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:18:06 GMT

You mentioned the two web clients will co-exist. How will that be done? Will they be running at different port numbers? When will (early builds of) the new web client available in the nightly code?

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

norgan — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:53:26 GMT

Hm, a difficult quest.

I congratulate on the new targets, it will make Alfresco even more worthwhile. But even though I might sound like a spoilsport, I would like to add a note of caution :

For my taste, the discussion here focusses very much on social features and making Alfresco a one and all system. Thats the way, Microsoft tried to go with MOSS and bit by bit, people start to realize, how few things can really be done decently with MOSS - inspite of the great fanfares in 2007.

Following points would by my favorites :
* improved support for web client & customization developement (planned for, cool !)
* improved integration into systems like Liveray, SAP Portal, IBM Websphere (could be lots better, why make Alfresco a portal - support them instead)
* support for an outofthebox barrierfree accessible webclient (I am too far from developing currently - is this already in scope by your current plans and changes ? Public Sector would buy into alfresco without it here.
* Bookmarking pages with an included RSS feed to allow integration into other apps, which retrieve the bookmarks of the user and integrate them as well.
* WIKI Integration
* Move some of the interaction features (i.e. tag clouds) to forge projects for the community to deal with.

I admit, that is very selfish of me I want to push Alfresco with some customers as collaboration plattform on the business side, not as web 2.0 people network *pulling out his asbesto suit and making ready ;-)* I myself would love a good working couple "Liveray + Alfresco" or "SAP Portal + Alfresco" to counter the MOSS installations (no I dont have anything against MOSS, I just think there are better solutions out there.)

Norgan

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:45:36 GMT

I saw some wires of the 3.0 web client, based on sites. How is space hierarchy imposed in the new client?

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

rscheele — Fri, 09 May 2008 10:37:34 GMT

Are nightly builds intentionally not updated? I'm very eager to see the results of the first 3.0 timebox.

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

ajmillar — Wed, 21 May 2008 11:03:43 GMT

Can I suggest some kind of fool proof GUI for doing all the little modifications that are currently handled in XML files? It would make it so much easier to configure and get up and running, rather than trying to figure out where everything should go and what documentation applies to which version etc.

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

dozyarmadillo — Wed, 21 May 2008 16:56:35 GMT

+1 for the GUI suggestion.

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

dozyarmadillo — Mon, 26 May 2008 13:55:48 GMT

I'm working on a project to deliver a portal using Liferay + Documentum. The technology part of it seems to be OK but we may be running into problems re the cost of licenses for the ECM side of things.

Consequently, I am very keen in finding out when the first Alfresco 3.0 preview will become available so that I can evaluate it.

Also, is there any news re an official Alfresco/Liferay bundle based on WebScripts/REST (Cignex appears to provide such a bundle with SSO but I don't know how this is licensed)?

Cheers

Mark

Re: Alfresco 3.0 Roadmap 2008 Discussion!

fretief — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 07:10:56 GMT

Any alternative to the sharepoint list function?