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    <title>topic What is the status of BPEL at the moment? Activiti does anything on BPEL? in Alfresco Archive</title>
    <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/what-is-the-status-of-bpel-at-the-moment-activiti-does-anything/m-p/156637#M110872</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;In short, could any one give me an answer like this (based on my humble opinions)?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;For example:&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1. 50% correct, reason:…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2. 0% correct, reason:…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3. 80% correct, reason:…&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Both BPEL and BPMN can describe BPM.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; BPMN 2.0 can describe more than BPEL.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2. Before BPMN2.0, BPEL is the usual way of executing BPM.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Generate BPEL from BPMN, then use Oracle BPEL Process Manager / MS Biztalk Server to deploy BPEL.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3. BPMN2.0 made Executable in realistic for BPMN model.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Today I get much more tutorial/book/tools on Executable BPMN than BPEL.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. When people want to executable BPMN, either for Simulation purpose or for really deploying an usable system, BPMN 2.0 is their first choice and they no longer have any interest to generate BPEL.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5. In general, BPMN tools uses: REST/WADL&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; BPEL tools uses:&amp;nbsp; SOAP/WSDL&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;6. What are the circumstances people will choose BPEL over BPMN 2.0? &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Or under what circumstances people have the interest to generate BPEL from BPMN?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;7. Is Activiti doing anything on BPEL?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 03:26:39 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>milesma</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-02-17T03:26:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What is the status of BPEL at the moment? Activiti does anything on BPEL?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/what-is-the-status-of-bpel-at-the-moment-activiti-does-anything/m-p/156637#M110872</link>
      <description>In short, could any one give me an answer like this (based on my humble opinions)?For example:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1. 50% correct, reason:…&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2. 0% correct, reason:…&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3. 80% correct, reason:…1. Both BPEL and BPMN can describe BPM.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; BPMN 2.0 can describe more than BPEL.2. Before BPMN2.0, BPEL is the usual way of ex</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 03:26:39 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>milesma</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-17T03:26:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the status of BPEL at the moment? Activiti does anything on BPEL?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/what-is-the-status-of-bpel-at-the-moment-activiti-does-anything/m-p/156638#M110873</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;1. Yes&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;2. Yes&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;3. Yes&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;4. Yes&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;5. No, BPMN is also XSD/WSDL focused.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;6. Can't think of one.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;7. No and we don't have anything on the roadmap.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Best regards,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 13:46:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>trademak</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-17T13:46:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the status of BPEL at the moment? Activiti does anything on BPEL?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/what-is-the-status-of-bpel-at-the-moment-activiti-does-anything/m-p/156639#M110874</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thank you Tijs (BTW, how to pronounce your name?)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;May I adjust No 5 like this?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;BPMN Tools in general is WSDL focused, however, Activiti is focus on REST/WADL. Is it correct?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Thanks again.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:22:46 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>milesma</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-17T22:22:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the status of BPEL at the moment? Activiti does anything on BPEL?</title>
      <link>https://connect.hyland.com/t5/alfresco-archive/what-is-the-status-of-bpel-at-the-moment-activiti-does-anything/m-p/156640#M110875</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Activiti is not using WADL, only plain REST. So far, I haven't seen a lot of products using WADL nor it being used in a lot of projects.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:26:54 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>jbarrez</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-02-25T08:26:54Z</dc:date>
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