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When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Wed, 22 May 2013 13:44:11 GMT

Hi,I had main process and son process which been called by the main.At the son process i had the flows displayed at the attached file(change his extension to png).I really don't know why the process not ended if the end task of the process reached, meaning that we passed all the process until the en

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

jbarrez — Wed, 22 May 2013 15:17:24 GMT

The reason is because the timer is probably entered by a parallel execution of the process.
The end event in BPMN only terminates the current path. You could use the 'terminate end event' (however not yet document / fully tested) to end everything when arriving in the terminate end event.

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Wed, 22 May 2013 18:04:50 GMT

Hi,
Thanks you for replying.
Can you explain more about the 'terminate end event' , is it a java listener that make everything to be terminate?
When i add a end listener, the process doesn't execute this listener because he didn't know that he already finish.

If you didn't mean to add a end listener, so how can i terminate all the open timers\tasks of process?

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

frederikherema1 — Thu, 23 May 2013 07:01:31 GMT

The terminate end-event is not a Java-listener but a construct in BPMN:


<endEvent id="EndEvent_2">
      <terminateEventDefinition id="TerminateEventDefinition_1"/>
<endEvent>

Add this instead of the normal end-event, it will cause all ope paths to be terminated when it's reached.

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

jbarrez — Thu, 23 May 2013 07:19:50 GMT

No, it is a specific BPMN element:

   <endEvent id="EndEvent_2">
      <terminateEventDefinition id="TerminateEventDefinition_1"/>
    <endEvent>

But like I said: it's a work in progress feature and not yet fully tested

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

jbarrez — Thu, 23 May 2013 07:20:07 GMT

Damn forum markup ….

<code>
   <endEvent id="EndEvent_2">
      <terminateEventDefinition id="TerminateEventDefinition_1"/>
    <endEvent>
</code>

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Thu, 23 May 2013 11:48:20 GMT

Hi,
Thanks for your reply..
I changed my end event to your end event suggestion and it's still not working,
The process doesn't know that he riches the end.
Any other idea?

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Thu, 23 May 2013 11:56:28 GMT

Could it be that the reason it does not work is the version that I use?
I'm using 5.9 version of activity…
Thanks,
Eran

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

gromar — Thu, 23 May 2013 11:58:11 GMT

I have found this feature too. I used simulation to predict probability of escalations for the following process:
[img]https://raw.github.com/gro-mar/activiti-crystalball/master/examples/src/main/process/org/activiti/crystalball/examples/mortages/MortageDemo-0.png[/img]

May be another good point to use simulation for process design testing.

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

jbarrez — Thu, 23 May 2013 15:01:38 GMT

I don't remember which version we added it, but 5.9 might be a little bit too old.
Do you have an easy way trying it with the latest release?

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Tue, 28 May 2013 13:03:27 GMT

I will check it soon and update you.
Thanks

Re: When opened timer Simultaneously, the process does not know he ends until the time of the timer comes to an end

eranziz — Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:39:00 GMT

Thanks a lot, solved the problem by upgrade the plugin version.